boris epshteyn here with me on the set in new york city. erin, let me start with -- let me start with you. i want to take a look, show you what joanne reed, managing editor of the grio. this is what she wrote in an opinion piece this week. sheer an excerpt. perhaps as he tends to family business, jackson can find a way to be central in the national conversation again, and to restore what has been among the most important black family pedigrees in this country. would you agree that jesse jackson sr.'s current hardship makes it harder for the jackson family to reclaim its political and activist power position? >> oh, i don't think so at all. this is one person and one person's career. and he, after he gets better may very well have a second act. but the family itself has a number of members who have been very active. i remember back to 1988 at the democratic convention when jackie jackson, who was just 12 years old got up on stage and said if i were old enough to vote, i would vote for my father. and then she along with the rest of her family